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  1. Jo Jo

    @Gavin. I tried to join the Facebook thing, but when Facebook came back at me with “Welcome, Harold,” I decided it wasn’t for me. LOL

  2. Hi Guys,

    Just thought I’d update you on where you stand on refunds with the Warrior Forum.

    I decided to open a dispute with Paypal last night as I have no intention of going back to the Warrior Forum even after my ban has been lifted.

    I looked up my payment details and tried to contact Allen Says via the ‘support’ email address that was given when I forked out my $37. Surprise, surprise……the email doesn’t exist anymore!

    Can’t open a dispute as it’s over 45 days and Paypal don’t want to know after that time.

    Only purchased in mid January this year.

    What a total scam! I can’t access the goods I’ve paid for AND can’t get my money back.

    Caveat Emptor – Buyer Beware!

    If I ever have the misfortune to meet Mr Clifton Allen Says JR I will offer to buy him a drink……then tip over the scam artists head!!!

  3. another warrior another warrior

    The WSO (Warrior Special Offers) section of the Warrior Forum, whilst sleazy and cheesy, provides
    Clifton “Allen” Says a tidy income and keeps him in
    Cuban cigars and yerba mate quite adequately.

    Thanks to Mr. Chuck Rosseel et al., word of the
    Warrior Forum’s sleaziness and chessiness is
    propagating through the cybersphere quite nicely.
    Kudos to these folks.

  4. @ Another Warrior – Amen to that!

    As for Mr Says’ Cuban cigars all I can say is that I would like to offer him one Monica Lewinsky style only I’d keep the buggar lit!!!

    Laugh in the face of adversity lol

  5. Jo Jo

    @ Gavin Lively “@Jo Who’s “Harold” lol”

    Darned if I know. Do you suppose they think I’m a cross dresser or…and should have two names? LOL

  6. Jo Jo

    I just got an email (subscription) saying that the Warrior Forum has been off line most of today and questioning what is going on. I couldn’t see any sales ploy in the email, so I’m wondering if anything serious has happened.

  7. Maybe the BBB (Better Business Bureau) has caught up with them and shut them down!

  8. LOL LOL

    Nicola Haxby,

    You disgust me. You are the worse one of them all.

    You slate the Warrior Forum while at the same time plot to sell WSO products there.

    At least the others have the dignity to stcik to their guns and point blank refuse to use the Warrior Forum.

    You speak about pride. You have none. You do not know what it means.

    You’re using Ad Hustler only because it suits you now. When your ban is lifted you will return to the Warrior Forum to treat it like a marketplace and not a community.

    You are an example of everything that is wrong with both Ad Hustler and the Warrior Forum.

    Shame on you.

  9. @LOL True, I did initially consider using the WSO’s when the ban is lifted but quite frankly I’m not going to.

    The reason is that firstly I don’t go a whole bag on the IM niche, my blog is more of a personal journey and just there to give anyone who reads it a few tips that I have found to have helped me. Secondly, my strength is niche marketing, both tangible goods and info products (if they are good quality and work!) none of which have had links on Ad Hustler or Warrior Forum for that matter.

    If I created a quality IM product and wanted to market it then selling it amongst scammers probably wouldn’t be the right move!!

    “You’re using Ad Hustler only because it suits you now.”

    How am I using Ad Hustler? Am I selling anything?…..No.

    “When your ban is lifted you will return to the Warrior Forum to treat it like a marketplace and not a community.”

    Absolutely!

    Just as they took $37, have a bogus email address on their Paypal receipt and don’t issue refunds….now there’s community spirit!!!

    I can lurk around the War Room, contribute nothing and get access to the goods that I have PAID FOR!!!!

    P.S. If you find me selling WSO’s then feel free to stick your fingers down your throat….may be better than where they appear to be stuck at the moment – clearly in the anonymous room!

  10. @LOL oh, and by the way.

    I leave a link to my ‘personal’ blog merely to identify myself as it is common courtessy to do so, and, unlike yourself, am not a troll!

  11. LOL LOL

    Thank you Nicola. I have taken screen shots of your comments and will be passing them to Warrior Forum moderators once you’ve paid for your WSO.

    Thank you!

  12. @ LOL (Still no link? What a yellowbelly!)

    It’s a free country. Did I say anything about purchasing WSO’s?……eerrr no!

    And just to enlighten you, anyone can buy WSO’s whether they’re a member or not, they show up on basic Google search results.

    Are you really so dumb that you think the mods have not seen this website? Really? Are you?

    Personally, I think you are a mod – the anonymous post giving ‘all hail WF’ kinda gives it away matey.

    Run along now and squeal little piggy – obviously nothing better to do, just watch you don’t get banned though as I did when I questioned a scammer thinking I was helping honest ‘community’ members from being ripped off.

    Can’t really see what screen shots are going to do. There’s no law on reading and looking round and it’s not obligatory to post WSO’s, purchase them or reply to posts. Just a small factor you may have overlooked from way up there on your high horse!

    Many people visit Ad Hustler but do not post and many people visit Amazon and don’t buy……it’s called traffic LOL and by visiting alone it benefits the SERPS.

  13. You know what tickles me folks?

    Is the ignorance that some people have in thinking that you NEED a forum to make money. No one should need the WF. There are many ways to market.

    Being banned is no big deal. If forum marketing is your thing then there are plenty of other alternatives. If you really miss and pine for the WF in some masochistic way then all you do is simply unplug your modem overnight which will trigger your IP address to rotate or go to Google Chrome and go ‘incognito’ and you can surf round as much as you want to.

    To prove this claim I have just been on and successfully downloaded a fresh WSO entitled

    “How I earned £36,000/$50,000 in 6 days without a list, FREE instructions”

    Of course, if you log in then they capture your IP address and you will have to go through the process again.

    Just wanted to demonstrate what a farce and toothless dog this banning really is.

    Screen shot that LOL (oh linkless wonder)!!!!

  14. LOL LOL

    Haxby, go ahead and pay to post your WSO. Please.

    Because as soon as your $20 lands in Allens Paypal account I would put good money on you being banned again.

    Funny how you talk about traffic. Your blog doesn’t seem to have any. So I’m going back to talk to people who understand marketing now, bye bye 🙂

  15. The WF is not the be all and end all.. Oh please, who cares if you are banned. If you are that dependent upon WF then you need some serious help and medication. I made my living online for over 15 years before the WF and I will make it for another 15 years after.

    Facts :

    * The forum is full of wannabe self proclaimed experts
    * The forums WSO section is in violation of the law
    * The forums WSO section has more scams in it then 1,000 website conbined
    * The forum has favored people that can do anything they wish

    I could go on all night long… WF does not make you money .. News flash people “YOU MAKE YOU MONEY” and you can post a WSO on many other forums, why I have MSO’s for Free, why pay $20 to stay on a front page for 10 minutes.

    I just created another video, lets see how this one goes since my other one has top listings …lol

    @LOL – Please go find a corner to play with yourself or get some of your WF buddies to do it for you..

  16. @ James Stein – well said, exactly the point I was making.

    @ LOL What part of ‘Im not posting a WSO don’t you understand?

    What part of…..I’m not in the IM niche and that blog is nothing more than a few articles I put down for my personal thoughts and IF anyone reads it then it may help.

    For the last time (hopefully) IM NOT IN THE IM NICHE!!!!

    The WF is no loss to me! It can’t help in promoting HD tv’s, weight loss, dog training, childrens toys can it!! (rhetorical quetion)

    I toyed with the idea of posting a WSO at some point merely to raise some money for a local animal rescue to pay off their vets bill….that’s all! If I did go ahead WHICH I’M NOT of course it would be to treat it as a marketplace. How else can anyone possibly treat a place that penalises the good guys and backs scammers? The community’ spirit is of the WF’s making – Like attracts like – birds of a feather flock together etc.

    There are other places to post special offers, there are other ways of marketing. My personal blog that is not designed as a source of income is no measure of what I earn. Hence if you look closely through those narrow sighted peep holes you claim to be eyes, you will notice that it hasn’t been updated for ages and it hasn’t many posts.

    Honestly, it’s like drilling through granite!

    Quote : “Because as soon as your $20 lands in Allens Paypal account I would put good money on you being banned again.”

    It wouldn’t surprise me at all LOL….Says usually waits till he has a members money BEFORE he bans them and issues a bogus email so you can’t get a refund….that’s what scammers do!

    I wouldn’t make the same mistake twice.

    Why the fixation with me LOL? Are you the scammer who got me banned? Or are you just some misogynistic weido that likes to stalk and troll around?

    On the subject of traffic LOL…..care to show us your url so we can do a quick Quantcast?

    Your username on here is befitting to the BS you spout!

    Please, please, please go and talk to some other marketers, you’ll find some advice right up your street on the WSO section 😉

  17. Robin Banks Robin Banks

    My whole family has just been banned from the Warrior Forum!

    I only had 5 posts to my name and jumped to the defense of my partner after another member was repeatedly posting up remarks of a derogatory nature towards my partner behind his back who has a temporary ban placed upon him.

    The message I just received was:

    You have been banned for the following reason:
    posting from same ip as banned member

    Date the ban will be lifted: 05-29-2010, 06:00 PM

    So just because my partner was banned, now I’ve had the same punishment meted out to me simply because I live under the same roof 🙁

    Does this mean that our son will be banned too if he decides to join the Warrior Forum, simply because he lives with us?

    This is censorship gone stark staring mad, it’s completely bonkers.

  18. @ Robin Banks

    Sorry to hear that you’ve been banned. You can also get banned if you speak negatively on other forums about the WF…..fascism gone mad!!

    Take a look at James Stein’s test that he did on his blog.

    Also take a look at LOL’s posts on here to see what kind of mentality they have over there. The No1 trick is to get you to part with your money first and then ban you.

    My advice for what it’s worth is that if you have paid the WF using Paypal within the last 45 days then open a dispute. Don’t waste your time trying to correspond with Allen Says’ email that he gives on your Paypal receipt as it doesn’t work (surprise, surprise)

    Failing that, email the Better Business Bureau as that will be the only way you can get to correspond to the man himself.

    Good luck, take action and stand up for your rights.

    Unplug your modem overnight or download Google Chrome and use the incognito feature and you’ll be able to get back on WF although you can’t log in. Use it to take screen shots of the member flaming your partner as evidence, otherwise it’s just a ‘he said – she said’ scenario.

    Nicola x

  19. Robin Banks Robin Banks

    The claim made is that my partner made a post which in fact wasn’t made by my partner at all.

    They’re getting their facts mixed up – period.

    But to try and argue the point seems to be a fruitless exercise, here is the message just received from Thomas at Warrior Forum Support:

    “It is your right to have another opinion but please do not start a discussion with me. The ban can and will not be lifted. Our house, our rules. Accept it or leave! Period!”

    To which I just told him in no uncertain terms what he could go and do with himself.

    My personal business has depended on the Warrior Forum and frankly I couldn’t care less whether I’m banned or not.

    What I do care about is when they make up completely fabricated bullshit in order to get someone banned.

    My partner has just undergone life saving surgery and really doesn’t need this crap, his words when I asked him if he felt my own response to Warrior Support was out of place was, they can collectively all go and f*** themselves for all I care.”

    Personally, whoever these faceless and nameless moderators are, I find their behaviour mind bogglingly pathetic.

    They need to stop treating grown adults that have been in business for decades with a degree of respect and stop treating adults of senior years like kids. In essence they need to grow up and get a grip on life rather than thinking they can simply get away with ordering other people around and speaking to their paid for userbase, treating them in this most dispicable manner.

  20. Robin Banks Robin Banks

    Re: My mistake…

    My personal business has depended on the Warrior Forum and frankly I couldn’t care less whether I’m banned or not.

    SHOULD HAVE READ…

    My personal business has NEVER depended on the Warrior Forum and frankly I couldn’t care less whether I’m banned or not.

    Sorry about that.

    Robin

  21. @ Robin Banks – Don’t waste your time with WF.. Millions got the same IP as you, they did not ban you because of the same IP because if they did then they would be banning more members than what they are now.

    The forum is useless and filled with useless information and useless people.. Not all of them are bad but the fact is the favored and the ones that really run WF are and you do not need to associate your business with them.

    Keep in mind your business success does reflect upon who you chose to associate with. If you associate with scammers and unethical 2 year old acting like children then that is how you and your business will be seen by some.

    There are other forums that have great members and great step by step plans 100% for free on how to make money online. You do not need the WF and their useless War Room or Scammy WSO’s …

    James

  22. @Robin Banks – Not to do any self promotion on this blog but Robin go join my forum, if you need help, a step by step plan, or something.. Trust me you can get it on my forum 100% free… I have been online for over 25 years and I have some members that are very knowledgable and willing to help ….. James

  23. @Warriors Do It Best – No offense meant dude but if this was my blog your comments would be removed. You “MAY” have legit information but the bad language is a serious turn-off..

    Again no offense meant but there are those of us in this industry that do not run around swearing left and right and honestly it looks bad for business.

  24. Warriors Do It Best Warriors Do It Best

    It ain’t my site dude. Tell the owner of the site.

  25. @Warriors Do It Best – Ok sorry thought it was yours.. as I said no offense meant..

  26. Robin Banks Robin Banks

    Re: James Stein said…

    @Robin Banks – Not to do any self promotion on this blog but Robin go join my forum, if you need help, a step by step plan, or something.. Trust me you can get it on my forum 100% free… I have been online for over 25 years and I have some members that are very knowledgable and willing to help ….. James

    Would you mind telling me your forum name please James?

    Thanks.

    Robin

  27. @ Robin Banks – Put your cursor over my name on the post above …

    ==============This post============
    James Stein said…

    @Robin Banks – Not to do any self promotion on this blog but Robin go join my forum, if you need help, a step by step plan, or something.. Trust me you can get it on my forum 100% free… I have been online for over 25 years and I have some members that are very knowledgable and willing to help ….. James

  28. There are some other forums on the web that are even better than the WF. Do a little digging…and you can find all of the info you find in WF in the WSO section for free….not kidding.

  29. JG JG

    @Jo
    I forgot I’d posted here lol
    I’ve had my internet account shut down (two times) after arguing with Paul Myers. If anyone has his IP address Id like to report him!
    The man is an idiot of the highest order. If there was a pyramid of pricks he’d be sitting right at the top. He is the forums biggest bully and he is extremely abusive. But… if anyone is rude to him then they’re banned (permanently).
    He’s an arrgogant, pompous asshole that only posts on there to try and make himself look superior to everyone else. He adds no value whatsoever to the forum. And then there are the sheep that follow him around thanking him for practically every post he makes.

    It’s pathetic.

  30. Jo Jo

    @JG (another anonymous poster). I’m sorry you’ve had such unpleasant experiences with Paul Myers. However, I have no personal relationship with him and have no more access than you do.

    I am on his mailing list, read his blog, and buy (and recommend) his products…nothing more.

  31. I just got banned too…

    this website suxs! Just want to leave my two cents. These bastards don’t even have the courtesy to send me an email to my question why I was banned.

  32. JG JG

    They don’t give a damn Destiny. I bought a product from the WSO forum not long ago and informed the seller (nicely) that I had requested a refund and hadn’t had a reply from them and could they please look into it for me.

    About 10 minutes later I was banned for “spamming”.

    How that is “spamming” I do not know.

    What I find most alarming is that some members who have paid $37 or whatever it is to join the “war room” have been banned.

    Don’t know what you think but I call that theft.

  33. Sam Sam

    Yes, I too logged in one day and got the message that you have been banned. Date ban will be lifted:NEVER. Reason for Ban: NONE!
    Ha! I paid $37 for the supposed premium War Room Membership and now I have no way to even recover my money!!!!!

  34. JG JG

    Oh my God I’m sorry to hear about that. I think if enough people complain to Paypal then something will get done about this.

    How many people here have paid for access to the war room and have then been banned?

  35. Corruption is an understatement! Censorship & greed are just 2 ingredients. Corrupt loser “moderators” like Pearson Brown are in bed with certain marketers & if you aren’t one of his sluts or family members like George Brown, your posts will be deleted, modified or you’ll be banned because you are taking money out of their pockets. He’s only a “moderator” so he can control free speech & provide links to his own monetized sites. You’d think that a grumpy old man like Pearson who hails from the U.K., wouldn’t want to behave like Hitler, a tyrant my father helped save him from.
    DON”T WASTE YOUR TIME AT WARRIOR FORUM! IT’S A PACK OF LIES!
    Thanks for providing a place where the truth can be told here at warriorforumsucks.com !

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  37. Lawyer Lawyer

    I joined the war room and after a couple weeks thought better of it and asked for a refund. These assholes told me that the refund would “show up on my next credit card statement.” Of course that was a lie. Refunds are almost instant. I did a chargeback and bank of america botched it but were willing to credit me the money from their funds.

    I wasn’t having any of that. I wanted my money back from warriorforum.

    It was only after threatening to sue them in small claims court, report them to the FTC, and create anti-warriorforum website which would do far more than the $37 refund in damages that they refunded.

    They lied so many times and were the rudest assholes. I honestly think these people who run warriorforum deserve to be put in prison.

  38. Warrior Forum Sucks Warrior Forum Sucks

    I paid $37 for the lame ass “War Room” (that I could deal with).

    I try & login today & got the “You are banned message – forever”, they take your $37 give you 2 weeks a then ban you.

    “Warrior Forum Sucks”

    The shit heads don’t give you a warning or tell you why your banned – Nothing!

    Damn Basterds

    I’ll diss these assholes forever!

  39. jeeves jeeves

    Been a low activity warrior member since 07 and never bought into the War Room crap despite multiple threads praising it to high heaven.

    Whenever anyone complains about wsos being rip offs, the the thread would get deleted.

  40. sherwin sherwin

    rubbish forum. got banned for no reason. Just joined today and helped answer a few questions.

  41. I was about to make a purchase on the membership. After hearing these feedbacks.. i guess it would be better for me to stay away!

  42. WF lurker WF lurker

    The WF is merely a “good ole boys (and girls) club.” If you don’t kiss the butts of the “forum elders,'” as they
    like to refer to themselves, you’re nothing in their eyes.

    One of their “seasoned” members is supposedly a ghost writer who, judging by her posts, isn’t much of a writer at all. Yet, they will go to the ends of the earth to worship this bonehead and kiss her ass from here to China.
    (I dropped a little hint there, so some of you may know who I’m referrring to.)

    I do get a kick out of Steven Wagenheim, though, for all his quirks.

    Basically, the WF (or WaFo as the WickedFire people like to call it) is one big circle jerk.

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